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Official (maybe) "Rate My Team" Thread, Thanks for the idea, Beowulf
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post Jun 5 2008, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(Sheik @ Jun 5 2008, 09:18 AM) *
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1. Lord Katja Lamperouge (Female Knight > General)
Lvl ----- 1 ------- 20/1 -- 20/20
Hp 20+4(70%+00%) --- 43 ---- 57
Pow 5+0(40%+10%) --- 17 ---- 26
Skl 4+2(35%+15%) --- 18 ---- 27
Spd 3+2(30%+20%) --- 17 ---- 26
Def 7+0(45%+05%) --- 20 ---- 29
Res 3+2(25%+10%) --- 14 ---- 21
Lck 3+0(15%+10%) ---  9 ---- 14

2. Youchi Habashiro (Male Archer > Ranger)
Lvl ----- 1 ------- 20/1 -- 20/20
Hp 17+0(60%+00%) --- 34 ---- 45
Pow 5+2(35%+15%) --- 19 ---- 28
Skl 6+1(45%+05%) --- 18 ---- 27
Spd 5+2(40%+00%) --- 18 ---- 27
Def 3+0(25%+05%) --- 11 ---- 16
Res 2+1(25%+15%) --- 13 ---- 20
Lck 5+0(30%+00%) --- 13 ---- 18

3. Takani Taska (Male Troubadour > Valkyrie)
Lvl ----- 1 ------- 20/1 -- 20/20
Hp 16+0(55%+00%) --- 32 ---- 42
Pow 4+0(40%+00%) --- 13 ---- 22
Skl 5+0(35%+00%) --- 13 ---- 20
Spd 5+2(40%+15%) --- 20 ---- 30
Def 2+2(20%+10%) --- 11 ---- 17
Res 4+0(35%+05%) --- 15 ---- 21
Lck 6+2(35%+10%) --- 20 ---- 28

4. Rina Noitsu (Female Monk > Bishop)
Lvl ----- 1 ------- 20/1 -- 20/20
Hp 14+4(50%+00%) --- 29 ---- 38
Pow 5+2(40%+10%) --- 19 ---- 29
Skl 4+0(35%+05%) --- 14 ---- 21
Spd 6+2(50%+00%) --- 20 ---- 30
Def 2+2(20%+10%) --- 12 ---- 18
Res 5+0(40%+00%) --- 15 ---- 23
Lck 5+0(25%+15%) --- 15 ---- 20

5. Marida Tioso (Female Fighter > Berserker)
Lvl ----- 1 ------- 20/1 -- 20/20
Hp 18+0(65%+00%) --- 36 ---- 48
Pow 5+2(40%+15%) --- 20 ---- 30
Skl 5+2(35%+15%) --- 20 ---- 30
Spd 5+2(30%+10%) --- 20 ---- 29
Def 3+0(45%+00%) --- 10 ---- 15
Res 3+0(25%+00%) --- 10 ---- 15
Lck 4+0(15%+00%) --- 10 ---- 15

6. Allen Rankal (Male Mage > Mage Knight)
Lvl ----- 1 ------- 20/1 -- 20/20
Hp 14+0(55%+00%) --- 30 ---- 40
Pow 4+2(40%+00%) --- 17 ---- 25
Skl 5+0(40%+10%) --- 17 ---- 26
Spd 5+2(35%+15%) --- 18 ---- 28
Def 3+2(25%+15%) --- 15 ---- 21
Res 4+0(35%+00%) --- 13 ---- 20
Lck 6+0(30%+00%) --- 14 ---- 19


And I'll add the rest when I have more free time to find. Though probably no-one will find this interesting. =/


Dunno what is up with your Archer -> Ranger.

I'll give you my Ranger states:

HP - 0/0%
Pow - 2/14%
Skl - 0/7%
Spd - 0/9%
Def - 2/6%
Res - 0/1%
Lck - 2/1%
Final states:
HP 43, Pow 25, Skl 30, Spd 30, Def 16, Res 17, Lck 21

You need to double with those guys because they don't have the best power, you must make up for low power by being able to double everything around with reliable accuracy... If you go anti-mage, you need to not be able to get doubled by them since you WILL be weighed down by heavier weapons, and without maxed Speed, chances that YOU will be doubled by the very thing you're trying to defend yourself against.
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post Jun 5 2008, 11:47 PM
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HP - 0/0%
Pow - 2/14%
Skl - 0/7%
Spd - 0/9%
Def - 2/6%
Res - 0/1%
Lck - 2/1%
Final states:
HP 43, Pow 25, Skl 30, Spd 30, Def 16, Res 17, Lck 21


I like the changes, but I'd change one little tiny thing up. Rangers don't survive a whole lot of physical beatings, even with a physical DEF buff, however, the two extra damage per shot is always welcome. If I was in your shoes, I'd dump the DEF down to 2/1% and up the POW to 2/19%
(My calculator's broken, so I"m doing these stats from my head) This should give you something along the lines of
HP 43, POW 27, SKL 30, SPD 30, DEF 14, RES 17, LCK 21. As you said, they don't have the best POW, so you need to squeeze every bit you can.

And goddamnit.. every time I try to reply to something you say, that picture of Alice (at least it looks like Alice) sends me into a laughing fit.
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post Jun 6 2008, 03:04 AM
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QUOTE(Mint @ Jun 5 2008, 11:47 PM) *
I like the changes, but I'd change one little tiny thing up. Rangers don't survive a whole lot of physical beatings, even with a physical DEF buff, however, the two extra damage per shot is always welcome. If I was in your shoes, I'd dump the DEF down to 2/1% and up the POW to 2/19%
(My calculator's broken, so I"m doing these stats from my head) This should give you something along the lines of
HP 43, POW 27, SKL 30, SPD 30, DEF 14, RES 17, LCK 21. As you said, they don't have the best POW, so you need to squeeze every bit you can.

And goddamnit.. every time I try to reply to something you say, that picture of Alice (at least it looks like Alice) sends me into a laughing fit.


Ok, I was debating on whether to implement 27.11 Pow over the Def, and I would easily do that in a heartbeat. However I have way too many "High POW, Low DEF" units that I need to strike a balance. My currrent imbalance costs me a lot of matches I could have potentially won because I'll get OHKOd by everything despite being able to do the same to others.

Yes, that is Alice.
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post Jun 7 2008, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(OmegaAxl @ Jun 4 2008, 03:33 AM) *
I would say Marme is one of the best offensive tanks..It has defense on both Def and res, Decent HP and major power..a worm would be enough to kick ass..Trust me I have been there..

Ok I will try..Just gonna put the final stats Since I am super lazy

OmegaAxl - Halberdier
stats - HP - 50, Pow,Skl,Spd - 30, Def - 29, Res - 12, Luck - 13, Con 10, Mov 7

Hit - 178% With Bronze lance
Crit - 35{S-rank bonus}
Avoid - 71


Hm... My Halberdier Lord is almost the same as yours, I didn't realize I was overcapping a couple of stats until I saw yours and noticed the lower growths but you were still capping the 3 main stats. However, mine does manage 2 more HP and it has +1 luck/-1 res compared to yours.

Would you rather have the extra luck or the extra res?
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post Jun 7 2008, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(Suichimo @ Jun 7 2008, 10:55 PM) *
QUOTE(OmegaAxl @ Jun 4 2008, 03:33 AM) *
I would say Marme is one of the best offensive tanks..It has defense on both Def and res, Decent HP and major power..a worm would be enough to kick ass..Trust me I have been there..

Ok I will try..Just gonna put the final stats Since I am super lazy

OmegaAxl - Halberdier
stats - HP - 50, Pow,Skl,Spd - 30, Def - 29, Res - 12, Luck - 13, Con 10, Mov 7

Hit - 178% With Bronze lance
Crit - 35{S-rank bonus}
Avoid - 71


Hm... My Halberdier Lord is almost the same as yours, I didn't realize I was overcapping a couple of stats until I saw yours and noticed the lower growths but you were still capping the 3 main stats. However, mine does manage 2 more HP and it has +1 luck/-1 res compared to yours.

Would you rather have the extra luck or the extra res?


So much for uniqueness..Your Lord Is my exact copy..Just a matter of 1 growth..Wow..just wow..So Much for the 'chief'

Extra Luck
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post Jun 7 2008, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE(OmegaAxl @ Jun 7 2008, 01:08 PM) *
QUOTE(Suichimo @ Jun 7 2008, 10:55 PM) *
QUOTE(OmegaAxl @ Jun 4 2008, 03:33 AM) *
I would say Marme is one of the best offensive tanks..It has defense on both Def and res, Decent HP and major power..a worm would be enough to kick ass..Trust me I have been there..

Ok I will try..Just gonna put the final stats Since I am super lazy

OmegaAxl - Halberdier
stats - HP - 50, Pow,Skl,Spd - 30, Def - 29, Res - 12, Luck - 13, Con 10, Mov 7

Hit - 178% With Bronze lance
Crit - 35{S-rank bonus}
Avoid - 71


Hm... My Halberdier Lord is almost the same as yours, I didn't realize I was overcapping a couple of stats until I saw yours and noticed the lower growths but you were still capping the 3 main stats. However, mine does manage 2 more HP and it has +1 luck/-1 res compared to yours.

Would you rather have the extra luck or the extra res?


So much for uniqueness..Your Lord Is my exact copy..Just a matter of 1 growth..Wow..just wow..So Much for the 'chief'

Extra Luck


I use to have 55 HP, 32 spd, and 31 skl, and only 24 defense. Obviously there was room for improvement. I had too many wasted points. I could drop myself to your 50 HP and have the same Res as you and higher luck. But I'd have to wait a week for that.
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QUOTE(Suichimo @ Jun 7 2008, 11:14 PM) *
QUOTE(OmegaAxl @ Jun 7 2008, 01:08 PM) *
QUOTE(Suichimo @ Jun 7 2008, 10:55 PM) *
QUOTE(OmegaAxl @ Jun 4 2008, 03:33 AM) *
I would say Marme is one of the best offensive tanks..It has defense on both Def and res, Decent HP and major power..a worm would be enough to kick ass..Trust me I have been there..

Ok I will try..Just gonna put the final stats Since I am super lazy

OmegaAxl - Halberdier
stats - HP - 50, Pow,Skl,Spd - 30, Def - 29, Res - 12, Luck - 13, Con 10, Mov 7

Hit - 178% With Bronze lance
Crit - 35{S-rank bonus}
Avoid - 71


Hm... My Halberdier Lord is almost the same as yours, I didn't realize I was overcapping a couple of stats until I saw yours and noticed the lower growths but you were still capping the 3 main stats. However, mine does manage 2 more HP and it has +1 luck/-1 res compared to yours.

Would you rather have the extra luck or the extra res?


So much for uniqueness..Your Lord Is my exact copy..Just a matter of 1 growth..Wow..just wow..So Much for the 'chief'

Extra Luck


I use to have 55 HP, 32 spd, and 31 skl, and only 24 defense. Obviously there was room for improvement. I had too many wasted points. I could drop myself to your 50 HP and have the same Res as you and higher luck. But I'd have to wait a week for that.


Wow..Never knew someone would copy my lord..
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post Jun 7 2008, 03:36 PM
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*Sighs* Looks like whatever I come up with, sticks...don't worry Axl, the "chief" isn't from FETO, it's just me throwing some rp curveballs... (that's first mageriders instead of horse mages, now it's "the chief...")

As for Sui, put whatever remarks we put on Axl and apply it to you.
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post Jun 7 2008, 04:17 PM
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Hmm... I could completely forsake HP and get a Def of 25/26 and get a luck of 19/20. Not sure what I'd gain from that though other than increased squishiness for my Lord.
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Actually I would recommend Luck..I picked defense because of my strategy or else Best thing for a halberdier is Luck.

@Beo - If you need help training your new archer I would help whenever you ask don't worry..You got your insurance policy..
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post Jun 7 2008, 10:20 PM
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Wow..Never knew someone would copy my lord..

You never thought ANYBODY would make a halberdier lord which caps all relevant stats?
If you didn't want anyone to copy you, do something that isn't mainstream. Max out DEF, or even go for a less popular class, such as Peregrine Knight (IMG:style_emoticons/blue/happy.gif)

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QUOTE(Mint @ Jun 8 2008, 08:20 AM) *
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Wow..Never knew someone would copy my lord..

You never thought ANYBODY would make a halberdier lord which caps all relevant stats?
If you didn't want anyone to copy you, do something that isn't mainstream. Max out DEF, or even go for a less popular class, such as Peregrine Knight (IMG:style_emoticons/blue/happy.gif)

Damn..No wonder you took a class like that..But I have done so much and I don't wanna reset my account, So I don't really mind Fighting a clone who would be impossible to beat, Unless he is an idiot..
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QUOTE(OmegaAxl @ Jun 8 2008, 03:32 AM) *
QUOTE(Mint @ Jun 8 2008, 08:20 AM) *
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Wow..Never knew someone would copy my lord..

You never thought ANYBODY would make a halberdier lord which caps all relevant stats?
If you didn't want anyone to copy you, do something that isn't mainstream. Max out DEF, or even go for a less popular class, such as Peregrine Knight (IMG:style_emoticons/blue/happy.gif)

Damn..No wonder you took a class like that..But I have done so much and I don't wanna reset my account, So I don't really mind Fighting a clone who would be impossible to beat, Unless he is an idiot..


No character is without weaknesses, and although Axl's captain is one of FETO's best, he's no exception. And seconding Mint, Halberdiers are pretty popular right now...

Out of curiosity, my calc's down right now, but can halberdiers max def? I would have thought that Axl'd max it if it was possible...
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post Jun 8 2008, 10:18 AM
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Male Halberdiers have a soft cap of 29.
Females have a soft cap of 26.
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QUOTE(Beowulf @ Jun 8 2008, 07:56 PM) *
QUOTE(OmegaAxl @ Jun 8 2008, 03:32 AM) *
QUOTE(Mint @ Jun 8 2008, 08:20 AM) *
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Wow..Never knew someone would copy my lord..

You never thought ANYBODY would make a halberdier lord which caps all relevant stats?
If you didn't want anyone to copy you, do something that isn't mainstream. Max out DEF, or even go for a less popular class, such as Peregrine Knight (IMG:style_emoticons/blue/happy.gif)

Damn..No wonder you took a class like that..But I have done so much and I don't wanna reset my account, So I don't really mind Fighting a clone who would be impossible to beat, Unless he is an idiot..


No character is without weaknesses, and although Axl's captain is one of FETO's best, he's no exception. And seconding Mint, Halberdiers are pretty popular right now...

Out of curiosity, my calc's down right now, but can halberdiers max def? I would have thought that Axl'd max it if it was possible...

Halberiders reach till only 29 That is male one..I don't know about female
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