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post Jun 8 2008, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(OmegaAxl @ Jun 8 2008, 10:23 AM) *
Halberiders reach till only 29 That is male one..I don't know about female


B... but... I just mentioned the soft caps in DEF...

29 for Male, 26 for Female... read please
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post Jun 8 2008, 10:53 AM
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Actually, Sui always liked Lance using heavy critting units. Just a coincidence his Lord has similar stats as you.
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post Jun 8 2008, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(Amoltamiss @ Jun 8 2008, 08:50 PM) *
QUOTE(OmegaAxl @ Jun 8 2008, 10:23 AM) *
Halberiders reach till only 29 That is male one..I don't know about female


B... but... I just mentioned the soft caps in DEF...

29 for Male, 26 for Female... read please


Oh, Sorry for skipping your post amolt..I never read it (IMG:style_emoticons/blue/dry.gif)
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post Jun 9 2008, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(Chino @ Jun 8 2008, 10:53 AM) *
Actually, Sui always liked Lance using heavy critting units. Just a coincidence his Lord has similar stats as you.


This is partially true. I do love my heavy hitting, flashy, spear wielding fighters. However, I already mentioned that I adjusted his stats because of Omega's Halberdier making me realize I was overcapping.

The way I'm looking to try now keeps Pow, Skl, and Spd all at max; drops defense by 4 and increases luck by 9. If that doesn't work out I'll probably revert it back to my variation of Omega's setup as that definitely is good.


Here are my other characters:

Clara(Troubadour > Valkyrie) - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/4572

An amazing healer who can heal a unit to near full even with just a bandage or a heal. She will be S-ranking swords. Right now she maxes Pow, Spd, and Res at 20/20. I will definitely have to adjust her as she has a rather shaky skill, only 19, and she doesn't even excel at one of her natural stats, luck.

Rachel(Mage > Sage) - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/4570

A back up healer and probably my strongest unit at the moment. Like Clara she maxes Pow, Spd, and Res. However, she comes out 2 points ahead in skill and with anima being fairly accurate she might be able to overcome that deficit. She will S-rank Anima.

Drake(Mercenary > Hero) - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/4571

My axe user, and back up sword user. I wouldn't be surprised if his stats are horribly done as all he maxes are Spd and Skl. He hits 25 str which should be enough using axes but I'll have to wait and see. He is S-ranking axes.

Lucy(Monk > Missionary, possibly Bishop) - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/8807

One of my newest characters, I created this to replace my Dark Knight who was going to turn out like crap. She hits max Pow, Spd, and 29 skl regardless of whether she goes into Missionary or Bishop. The only real difference between the two classes, besides Missionary having a huge move boost, is a single point of resistance in the missionary class. She's S-ranking Light.

Sophia(Shaman > Wraith, possibly Druid) - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/8804

Like Lucy, I created this to replace my Dark Knight who was going to turn out like crap. She will hit max power regardless of class. If she goes Druid she will have 29 skl and spd. If she goes Wraith she'll max spd and hit 28 skl. She also gets an extra point of resistance in Wraith. She'll be S-ranking Dark.

The main thing is that I'll have a user for every weapon type except bows. Not sure exactly how well that will work out though.
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post Jun 9 2008, 04:05 PM
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Well, I want some help with my primary team because the tournament is coming and I need to be prepared for most of my opponents and I am an offensive player and sometimes balanced so i mostly forgo the defensive stats of my characters.

Well I'll start with my Agent, http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/6092

A true mage killer, I optimized to max her POW, SPD with heavy focus on SKL. Already S-ranked swords and one level away from 20/20. She does her job quite well and is hard to be killed by mages but her DEF is a main problem and is something that isn't worth fixing. Her good HP also makes her survive 2 swings from physical powerhouses.

Next my War Mage, http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/6089

Now she definitely is a War Mage in the truest sense. Max POW, decent SKL and Max SPD for a Marmour. Nearly caps DEF and good HP. Can survive being 2 hit from Mages, however I incorrectly allocated 2% of her growths on RES, making it 12.97 and need to know where to allocated them, such as SKL, DEF or LCK.

The LOLI MageKnight, http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/6068

She maxes POW and SPD, good SKL and decent LCK. Your standard Mage Knight for swift attacks. I'm pretty sure Beowulf can help me in this field.

Next up, a Sniper http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/6319

He maxes SKL at the moment, but once I get the chance I want to max his POW and SPD as well by sacrificing DEF. He's a back-up crit unit and the standard physical long-ranger(no pun intended) for killing mages or annoying flying units.

Now the last two, first the missionary http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/6097

I really am having a hard time choosing what stats to focus on him. He get max POW for a Missionary, ok SKL and I think he maxes SPD as well and I gave slight focus on RES...

Finally my Cleric whom I want to promote to a Bishop. http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/6095

I aimed at him maxing POW getting 23 SKL and 28 SPD, I also focused some on his DEF and RES. I really need to know what do to him. Well that's that. I mainly focus at my units POW, SKL and SPD and after that whatever they're supposed to be good at.
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post Jun 9 2008, 04:16 PM
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uhhh Vongola Those units are promoted..
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post Jun 9 2008, 04:20 PM
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@Von

I've fought this team before...Whaa, no Shariq? Cmon, Shariq=Lamia, =Axl, =Cirno, =your trademark...I don't care if you'll end up with 2 swordies, but Shariq's your captain and your best advantage...imho...

Karen: Good hp, enough to survive physicals, which marks the dif between mages taking physicals and warders taking physicals.

Lal: I recommend Def, but that's again subjective.

Neil: No problems there; just make sure mounteds don't break through your defences to sack the qb..

mageriders: Heh, ^^. No real recommendations, aside from my slight disapproval of the missionary focusing on res. There are two courses for mageriders; all-out pow/skl/spd (DDrider), or if you don't have a healer bringing up the rear, the modified bulkyrider (smogon ref to one threatening, intimidating something that everyone hates as much as the magerider archetype) which includes 2basehp and 15 def to survive 2 javvies. That calc is for lolis, so it may need some skewing.

UGH, HOW MANY TIMES DID I MENTION I HATE SAUL??? As....arch, gtg, more stuff coming..
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post Jun 9 2008, 06:16 PM
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Oh heck. I tried to refrain from posting in this thread, but I might as well post my team for feedback from you veteran experts.

Auren (Missionary Lord): projected 20/20 stats HP/Pow/Skl/Spd/Def/Res/Lck
40/28/27/30/22/22/24

He's meant to be sturdy against those javelins and iron knives while being avoidy enough to make somebody want to switch up (and hopefully miss), though I'm actually not happy with the projected 20/20. If somebody can come up with a better idea for balancing, I'll be happier to try it out.

Corrine (Seraph Knight): 42/26/30/30/11/25/18

My flying mage slayer. A little bit weak on def, but maxes strength/skill/speed for the female seraph knight class. I was trying to decide between her or my mystic, but I ended up choosing her despite the weakness to bows because I like the high move.

Dalton (Halbedier): 48/27/26/28/26/12/14

A crit class foot unit, and lances are kind of middle of the road weapons. I also have a mercenary I'm training up to be a swordmaster, and I like his stats more, but lol@him being level 3.

Holstein C. (Wyvern Knight): 48/27/28/27/27/8/13

My flying tank. There is more emphasis on skill for him because he uses axes, but he gets raped by magic.

Sene (Druid): 40/29/28/28/12/26/16

A staff user that can also double up as a magical offensive unit. Yes, s/he's my cross-dressing druid, but I don't care. XD

Zephrey (Cleric-->Sage): 40/30/26/22/14/30/15

This guy will be doubled by anyone and everyone, but he's my primary staff user/healer and meant to stay far behind the front lines. Maxed pow/skl/res for him, with any leftover points on speed (which wasn't much).

Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
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post Jun 9 2008, 10:23 PM
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Strengths:
- Semi-mobile team, two without terrain penalty, thereby able to execute almost all rescue strategems.
- Somewhat varied units in terms of ability.
- Cover at least one of the two defenses, leaving no "glass" units.
- Guaranteed to survive about eight turns on a small map.

Weaknesses:
- Doesn't cover all of the weapon types (Sword is missing); a switch to Peregrine instead of Seraph would have sealed the deal.
- Besides the Wyvern, everyone can be beaten by a RES-aligned Fighter -> Berserker. Also, besides the Halberdier, everyone can be beaten by a Mystic -> Valiant.
- Somewhat weak to a wall of pure tanks.

That's my stand on it.
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post Jun 9 2008, 11:24 PM
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Mmm... might as well post my promoted team.

Ael-Ferrion [Ranger] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/5946
Blexe [Seraphknight] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/4455
Dullmsdale [Champion] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/4374
D'Alma [Bishop] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/4895
Fifeneer [Holy Knight] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/4373
Guene-Foss [Sage] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/4372
Malfil [Wraith] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/4375
Neptjunoue (affectionately called Nepto) [Hero] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/5706
Pelitt [Valkyrie] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/6540
Reque [Warrior] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/5948
Tente'arch [Crusader] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/5678
Zenosblead [General] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/5704

Do you expect me to make self-comments for all 12 of my non-lord promotes? No. Do not.
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post Jun 10 2008, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE(Beowulf @ Jun 10 2008, 02:20 AM) *
@Von

I've fought this team before...Whaa, no Shariq? Cmon, Shariq=Lamia, =Axl, =Cirno, =your trademark...I don't care if you'll end up with 2 swordies, but Shariq's your captain and your best advantage...imho...

Karen: Good hp, enough to survive physicals, which marks the dif between mages taking physicals and warders taking physicals.

Lal: I recommend Def, but that's again subjective.

Neil: No problems there; just make sure mounteds don't break through your defences to sack the qb..

mageriders: Heh, ^^. No real recommendations, aside from my slight disapproval of the missionary focusing on res. There are two courses for mageriders; all-out pow/skl/spd (DDrider), or if you don't have a healer bringing up the rear, the modified bulkyrider (smogon ref to one threatening, intimidating something that everyone hates as much as the magerider archetype) which includes 2basehp and 15 def to survive 2 javvies. That calc is for lolis, so it may need some skewing.

UGH, HOW MANY TIMES DID I MENTION I HATE SAUL??? As....arch, gtg, more stuff coming..


Ahhh, thanks a lot and I already did my captain on the first page.

And w2k, Mr. Sirius has given the best analysis possible so take his advice and get some anti-tanks and DEF units.

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Mmm... might as well post my promoted team.

Ael-Ferrion [Ranger] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/5946
Blexe [Seraphknight] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/4455
Dullmsdale [Champion] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/4374
D'Alma [Bishop] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/4895
Fifeneer [Holy Knight] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/4373
Guene-Foss [Sage] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/4372
Malfil [Wraith] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/4375
Neptjunoue (affectionately called Nepto) [Hero] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/5706
Pelitt [Valkyrie] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/6540
Reque [Warrior] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/5948
Tente'arch [Crusader] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/5678
Zenosblead [General] - http://feto.feplanet.net/character/view/5704

Do you expect me to make self-comments for all 12 of my non-lord promotes? No. Do not.


Ael: well if you're looking for a balanced ranger then Ael fits well. His defence would be enough at 20/20 to survive 2 30 POW strikes and still leave it with some decent HP. Good POW, probably maxes SPD and SKL. However, since your skl would be a bit too much and Ael isn't a crit unit so I say lower SKL by 1 or 2 points and add them to HP/POW/RES as you also have LCK for hit if it's maxing SKL otherwise its good.

Blexe: Can't say much as I have no experience with using fliers but you gave him one extra growth in SPD, when you have the chance allocate it to your lck.

Dullmsdale: He's pretty much balanced and well you're making a good choice to S-rank Lances(Seeing he's filled with lances and has more WEXP in it) he'll end up with good POW, MAX SPd and decent SKL and DEF.

That's all I can do for now anyways it seems you're a balanced player, no?
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post Jun 10 2008, 03:43 AM
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Guess I'll ask for some thoughts as well. >.>
Not so much as 'Rate my team.' as 'Please point out the horrible flaws and things I should immediately fix.'

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post Jun 10 2008, 07:03 AM
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Thanks a lot for the input Mr. Sirius, and Vongola-X. Btw, my wyvern can use swords, but I'll have him S rank in axes. Since the goal is to aim for a team of 6 units (I'm still haven't made up my mind about the tournaments yet, but we'll see), I'm considering replacing one of my staff users with an armored mage, and possibly the pegasus with a holy knight. However, I love my pegasus a little too much at the moment to let go of her just yet. And I like having 2 staff users instead of just one.
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post Jun 10 2008, 09:32 AM
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@Von; Sorry, I couldn't finish Saul after multiple flames... Yeah, if it wasn't for personal experience, I'd actually recommend a Valk; hear me out. After seeing my mageriders falter, which imho, was the closest an all-out offensive 1st-strike team could get to succeeding, I've experimented with Cyan regarding a "first strike that doesn't hurt." This usually involves at least 2 mageriders and a valk, thus effectively taking out 1-2 units on the first strike and taking virtually no damage. Your 1st-strike adv nets you a gain, and they effectively have to do a "first strike" of their own now, without capitalizing on previously injured units. Mind you, from personal experience, Saul puts Lamia and any rider under a dress-code, so maybe he's a special case...

@Biske: Calcs would be appreciated. Anywho,
Lord: Good, solid captain; enough def to survive the 2-javvy assault and captain bonuses to not suffer much anywhere else. I'm not fond of res on mages, but if you are, then that's your call; I'd put it into skl and luk first.

Warrior: I'll assume that it hits either 30 or 27 since I'm out of time again. Natural good strength and skill; mehish luck and poor resistance make this Axl's turf. Make sure to equip a handaxe, almost at all times due to your decent skl, or else mageriders can and will take this one down.

Out of time, more later.

K,

Missionary: I dislike the res investment, but I already clarified that. I already also stuck to the builds of DDrider or bulkyrider; either go all-off and focus on skill, hoping you finish, or use 15-16 def to survive 2 javvies when you first-strike.

Swordie: I'm not seeing any problems, but I'm no swordie authority.

Barbarian: I dislike the hp growth (that's just me) and power looks unoptimized. I think that's about it.

Holy Knight: Fair enough. The def's poor, but there's no way around that.

Seraph: Optimize pow, skl and def.

Hits
-All weapons covered
-decent mobility, can cover bases with a solid effort

Misses
-slight lack of magic, but that's just taste.
-a few unoptimized stats, but that could be looked at later.
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post Jun 11 2008, 11:15 PM
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